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#1 gregmondro

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Posted 31 October 2006 - 10:58 AM

First off, what is a slip yoke eliminator? The name is pretty self explanitory. A SYE kit eliminates the slip yoke on your transfer case. Why would you want to do this? Lets see how a slip yoke works first.

On a live axle application (for example, Jeeps where the rear axle moves freely when you go over speed bumps, etc because it is held with springs). When this happens the driveshaft needs to be able to get longer or shorter depending on the position of the axle. On a Jeep for example, this is where the slip yoke comes into play. The yoke is the part that will hold the u-joint and the "slip" is the splined portion that slides in and out of the transfer case.

The SYE (fixed yoke) eliminates the slip yoke. The purpose is to allow you to install a CV(or double cardan) drive shaft like the one pictured below.

Why do this? Well it lowers the angle and removes vibrations that arise when you lift a vehicle. Another advantage to this is that the rear of the transfer case is now sealed. Meaning if you break your rear drive shaft, you can drive home in front wheel drive without spilling transfercase or transmission fluid all over.

If you have vibrations on your rear driveshaft, you can sometimes figure out what is causing them depending on when they occur. Vibrations caused by acceleration usually mean that the pinion is pointed too high. Vibrations when you let off the gas usually mean too low. Vibrations during acceleration and when you are deceleratio, but not coasting could mean you have a problem with axle wrap. These occurances aren't always a set thing though, it's just something to go by.

edit: greg can't spell cardan laugh.gif

Edited by gregmondro, 31 October 2006 - 01:32 PM.

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#2 XJGirl

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Posted 31 October 2006 - 11:00 AM

I am going to get one as soon as i get the funds for it... but I am gettting the whole shebang, the sye and the shaft so it is closer to 500

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Posted 31 October 2006 - 01:24 PM

ok so Greg, do you have to run a cv (or double cardan) joint with a sye?

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Posted 31 October 2006 - 01:39 PM

The point is to make it so the vibes are eliminated.

With the slip yoke on the xfer case now eliminated, the thing that is extending and compressing is the new driveshaft. The double cardan joint is there to get rid of the harsh angles. If you don't have that there between the transfer case and the driveshaft, then you'll still have a harsh angle on the u-joint where it meets the transfer case.
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Posted 31 October 2006 - 01:44 PM

but is it possible?

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Posted 31 October 2006 - 01:55 PM

Dunno, probably depends on the ammount of lift.

Look at that picture up above. Basically remove that whole double cardan joint there and leave only the u-joint on the transfer case side of the drive shaft. See how it looks like itlls hit against the yoke on the transfer case?

With a double cardan ds, the pinion angle needs to be inline with the ds, not parallel to the output on the transfer case like with a regular 2 u-joint shaft.

Edited by gregmondro, 16 November 2006 - 10:34 AM.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 01:49 PM

Greg, stop making all this shit up tongue.gif
Maybe a list of a few places that make SYE kits could be helpful:

Tom Woods Custom Drive Shafts
RedRock 4x4
Quadratec
Rubicon Express

Sorry 'bout the Jeep bias... just how I am biggrinnew.gif Anyhoo, these were just google search results and a few from my head, I'm sure you can find tons more.

Also, a link or two on installation:

http://rockcrawler.c...s/jb_short_sye/
http://www.stu-offro...e/sye/sye-1.htm
http://7slotgrille.c...sye1/index.html

Again, there are plenty more write ups, just google.

#8 Jeeves

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 02:28 PM

Necro much?

I've been reading up on these things. While some say they're necessary, others say they're not. Seems to me (uneducated, unfielded, unexperienced) that more than anything it's good insurance against damage and it's a good piece to replace that is likely to cause issues anyway.

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Posted 04 December 2006 - 09:08 AM

QUOTE(Jeeves @ Nov 27 2006, 01:28 PM) View Post

Necro much?

I've been reading up on these things. While some say they're necessary, others say they're not. Seems to me (uneducated, unfielded, unexperienced) that more than anything it's good insurance against damage and it's a good piece to replace that is likely to cause issues anyway.

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At first I used to say they were not really necessary. I only had 3" of lift on a Wrangler. I didn't have vibes, nothing was wrong. Then my rear driveshaft started eating u-joints. It ate a few of them until I finally bought a SYE and CV Driveshaft. After that I realized what being vibe free was really all about. Now I say that they are necessary equipment when you lift a vehicle. Not only for the vibe issue but a U-joint that is under less of an angle will live longer.

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Posted 04 December 2006 - 10:01 AM

i would def. recomend one if you ever 4.5 inches... i didnt have one on my yj and it was the suckage. bad vibrations in every scenario possible.




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